Pull-off-to-open-string-doesn't-ring problem -- workaround found

[whm99]

Perhaps someone else has posted this.  If so, my apologies.

The annoying "feature" of the strings muting when you pull off to an open string has a simple workaround -- while we wait with bated breath for a software solution.  You are working on it for the next firmware revision, right??

I noticed that if you pull off to a fretted string, the note rings on the fretted string you finish on.

The workaround is to put a capo on the first fret and then tune the strings down a half step using the control panel.

Now when you pull off to an open string you hear the open string ring.  At least I do on my YRG, running current firmware.

The downside is that you are playing on an even more compressed fingerboard, but I'll accept that.  For now.

Seriously, this is a great device and with anything it takes time to get the bugs worked out.  I look forward to when this is a legitimately useful instrument for musicians.  It has already helped my left and right hand accuracy, since it's so unforgiving

billm

[gstik]

The workaround is to put a capo on the first fret and then tune the strings down a half step using the control panel.

Now when you pull off to an open string you hear the open string ring.  At least I do on my YRG, running current firmware.

DO you use this for strumming style or lead style? for playing leads I imagine all kinds of unintended notes left sounding ...

[jacius]

I've been wishing to have this as a preset option, too.

Actually, when I read about the ability to disable auto-muting open strings in the new 1132 firmware, I thought this is what it was going to do. In fact, turning that off will still mute the string that you lift off from, but it doesn't mute any other strings. This is a good behavior for some styles of playing, and definitely a step in a good direction.

But it would be nice to have the option of making the strings ring open.

[gsarff]

Yes it would, I got my YRG in july, and have been away from the forums for awhile, and it, and just downloaded the new firmware
and that is what I expected this to do, let me play, say an F# on the high E string, and pull off and have the guitar sound an E,
but it doesn't, it immediately mutes, even with that setting checked in control panel.   This is rather frustrating,  it makes it
somewhat un-guitar-like,  but I am learning, to immediately pick  the E string.   Had not thought of putting a Capo on it,
though.   I do hope they can fix this in some future version,  though doing so might introduce some other weird behavior, I
know, like constantly ringing strings, etc.   hmm,  may or may not be a  hard problem to solve, but I sure would like this
behavior, as I'm a finger picker rather than a strummer really, and am always pulling off strings and expecting the open
string to sound, in my songs.

[pastorjeff]

I'm stunned the option hasn't been added yet.
Seems to be a simple fix.

My point has always been that you SHOULD be able to make this as guitar like as possible, and without your work-around, you simply can't.
 Disappointing.

[yrger]

Have you tried using a capo and tuning down 1/2 step ?

I'm stunned the option hasn't been added yet. Seems to be a simple fix. My point has always been that you SHOULD be able to make this as guitar like as possible, and without your work-around, you simply can't. Disappointing.

[gstik]

The reason for this behavior is that for most playing you need this functionality. For example: - if you play chords or a solo around the 5'th fret, removing your fingers from the fingerboard turns notes off ... and makes sense for most playing - but to the processor, this looks like a pull-off to open. If pull-offs to open were enabled, the notes would never turn off.

The capo suggestion is a possible solution, we are also looking into some other ideas.

[francisstinson]

Thank you for this solution

[SVH]

That makes sense to me

[gnuyu2]

If pull offs to open were enabled, it wouldn't affect the guitar half of the sound bank, because they decay. Is this something that could be worked into the control panel? It seems like a negative, but string sensors with Gen1s do the same thing and not shut off in synth sounds that don't decay. A note off to open damped, maybe? That mute bar does in handy when it loses control. A sustain pedal with control function for this , or hey, R&D, a MIDI in/out foot box w/ expression, sustain, and all sorts of other crap for fun, would be stellar. Drop the control panel in it, and... YouRock LiveRig!

[airmanchairman]

The reason for this behavior is that for most playing you need this functionality. For example: - if you play chords or a solo around the 5'th fret, removing your fingers from the fingerboard turns notes off ... and makes sense for most playing - but to the processor, this looks like a pull-off to open. If pull-offs to open were enabled, the notes would never turn off.

The capo suggestion is a possible solution, we are also looking into some other ideas.

You are right in saying it's a POSSIBLE solution, because depending on how you are playing (hammer-offs to open during single-note soloing or while playing chords) it either works OK (single-note) or muddies your chords with unintended pull-offs-to-open (when you want hammer-offs-to-open on one or two strings only while playing chords using several strings).

This is what I'm getting using a capo.

Has anyone experienced this too and found a "workaround-to-the workaround?" :-)